Professor Kate Shaw was interviewed by Chris Hayes, her husband and host of MSNBC's All in With Chris Hayes, in a podcast called "Why is this Happening?"
The interview focuses on President Trump, his non-traditional White House and the way Trump interacts with the law.
Hayes said, "it seems to me that he's had a tough climb in the courts. Particularly on these big signature things like DACA and the travel ban. Why do you think that is?"